When 2 out of 3 Ain’t Bad

Now that winter is here, I finally have some time to blog about some of my recent experiences.  Guess I’ll start out by telling you about a couple that was referred to me last Spring.  Great young couple.  First time home buyers too.  They were looking for something pretty specific.  The wife reminded me of myself, because she wanted to be on her deck/patio and not see another neighbor.  I am like that too.  I’m probably worse since I have this thing about having a lot that sits higher that the houses around me.

Anyway, we looked at a whole lot of houses, which is always fine with me.  My attitude is the more houses I get into the more useful I am in the future to folks.  It really helps me to know what is typical for the area.  Especially when I am doing comps.

I had been telling them they should by a house that they can see themselves in for a long time.  The way the economy is, who knows what the interest rates would be when they wanted to sell.  If we have inflation like the 1980’s again, there will be a lot of people who can’t afford to move up to a bigger house if interest rates shoot up.  I kind of shot myself in the foot I think since that upped the ante for the house.  But hey, it’s about them not me!

Like everybody, they wanted a move in ready house.  Off topic here, but if all the houses on the market were move in ready, we could pull ourselves of the housing slump.  There really aren’t that many move in ready………I mean MOVE IN ready houses out there.    Well, real estate is all about Location, Price, and Condition.  Those are the 3 realities we have to work with.  It is pretty rare to get all 3 in Lexington for under, well, just about any amount, especially under $200k.

So, I started dropping hints that it would  be easier to update a house than they thought……….if we found one that had everything else right about it.  At first, I don’t think they were that interested in that.  Like all home searches that go on for a bit, they started to get tired of looking.  That can be a dangerous point cause then people sometimes compromise toooo much just to end the search.  We didn’t go that far.  If somebody is near that edge, I’ll usually look at houses without them and decide if it is worth showing them.  People can only take so much disappointment.

They started to entertain the idea of painting, new carpet, updating lighting, etc.  Somehow we found the 2 most unreasonable sellers in their price range.  We made offers on these houses, I mean offers that I thought were VERY fair, only to have them rejected or countered on the far side of reality.  (One of those houses was taken off the market and rented and the other one is still sitting there vacant!)

Third time is the charm.  We found a great ranch with nice rooms, a nice lot, in a fine neighborhood.  We also found a seller who smoked, had multiple cats, and probably didn’t own a vacuum.  The place looked pretty bad.  It smelled and it was messy.  If I had taken this couple to this house any earlier, it would have become one of the forgotten ones.

So, we made an offer, it was countered by an agent who kept calling me “Babe,” and yes it was another guy.  I thought that was kind of an odd thing to call another guy as opposed to “Bud”, or “Dude”, but I took one for the team.  Finally they had a house!!

Since I got them into this mess, I figured I better help them with the worst part, which was pulling up the carpet.  Man, it was nasty.  Come to think of it, I don’t remember seeing a cat box in that house!!

While they were painting and making daily trips to Home Depot, I would occasionally get a text from the husband.  It always scared me a little since I never knew if it was going to be something like this:  “Curse U John Rice!  WTH.  Y did U sell us this house.  I’ll get U L8er for this!!”  But it was always just an update of how the reno was going.

This couple spent about 6-8 weeks painting, changing light fixtures, getting new carpet and decorating the place.  I’ve been over there a few times and it really looks great.  They’ve been over to my house, and it is kind of embarrassing for me since their house looks so awesome and mine, well, just doesn’t.

I think they are really proud of their house and that they did all the work themselves.  When you find a house that works for you on so many levels but only needs a decor-ectomy, you should buy it.  Those things are easy to change.  So now they have Location, Condition, and all within their Price.  They got it all, and all it took was 6-8 week.  A happy ending, especially since I also made some new friends in the process.

How to Save $100k in Beaumont

I’ve spent a lot of time with Beaumont on my radar lately.  I have had 3 buyers this year who picked that area.  That means that before we made the offers, I had to do a lot of research on days on market, what you get for the money & why, compare past sale prices to see how much of a hit the area has taken, etc.

One thing that has really stood out to me is that there is about a $100k gap between an almost new house and one that is about 10 years old.  I mean, we’re talking similar size, features, lots here!  Why the big difference?

It all boils down to the finishes.  The houses I have been in and seen that have or will sell for north of $500k are newer, have granite, trendy lights, hardware, lever style door handles in either bronze or nickel.  The ones that are worth about $400k have laminate counter tops and a lot of brass.  Some of the older ones don’t have as open of a floor plan, but enough do to make me not think that is the only reason for the big gap.

Here is what you do get that is similar:  About 4000 square feet, 4 or 5 bedrooms, 1/4 acre-ish lot,  most have finished basements, same popular school district.  In an era where exotic hardwood in wider sizes is popular, almost all the houses I have seen up to about $550k have the same 2 1/2 inch wide oak in a honey looking stain.

So, what is a buyer to do?  Well, if you have the time and money, I think the way to go is to buy one that is a little outdated and update it.  Let’s take a look at what you can do:  Want a dark stain for the hardwood?  $5-6k will get you floors that look brand new.  Granite?  $5-7k will impress everybody.  Stainless appliances?  Unless you go pro, figure $6k.  Update all the kitchen cabinet pulls, put on those bronze level style door handles….maybe $1500.  So far we have only spent about $20k.  That leaves about $80k for stuff like the master bathroom, new carpet if needed, a killer deck or patio, a man cave basement or anything you want.  Or you could just pocket that when it is time for you to sell!

Why a house may sell for less than it’s 2005 Value

You know there is a lot of talk about house prices falling and all.  I really think Lexington is pretty safe.  If you throw out distressed properties (foreclosures, short sales, etc.) the prices have been pretty flat for houses under $250k since about 2005.  Granted, there are exceptions.  Some neighborhoods have seen the smack of the correction.  To keep this a blog and not a dissertation, I will work towards my point.

When I have a buyer these days, I like to do a “Market Analysis” for today’s value and what it would have been worth in 2005.  I do it for them to show them how their neighborhood has weathered the storm so far.  I do it for myself because I think it is kind of fun.  Makes me look smart too!

I have also spent a lot of time this year looking for houses that have sold both in 2005 (end of the boom) and once since then.  Just about all the houses are selling for around what they did in 2005.  There are a few that have sold for less than they did during the boom  (I am getting closer to my point.)  The ones that sold for less usually did so because the newest owner got a house with older carpet, older appliances, an older roof, and older HVAC system, older water heater.

So, I guess my point really is that people shouldn’t freak when a house down the road from them sells for ten grand less than it did 3 year ago.  We have been spoiled by blind appreciation.  There is a lot of stuff in any house that has a limited economic life.  If you use it up for yourself and don’t leave much for the next owner, it will affect your sale price.  That doesn’t mean the house really depreciated though, just means you are crediting the new guy for the amount you used and didn’t have to replace.

How cost vs. value really works when updating your home

I am sure you have seen those articles in magazines that say stuff like “Get back 89% of the cost when you update your bathroom.”  It’s not that I think they make that stuff up.  It’s not that I doubt that really happens.  The problem I have with it is that it makes people believe that the money they spend now is guaranteed to make them money in the future.

Here are the factors that are often overlooked when people think about cost vs. value:  Age, condition, style, design and quality are a few.  Why does all this matter?  The reality about value is that your improvements must be both desireable and have enough life left in it for the new owner.  Everything has an economic lifespan.   With updates, you also have style to consider.  New hardwood flooring that most people think is ugly may not add any value.  High end maple cabinets that are now 10 years old (and show it) may not add any value either.  Think I am crazy?  Ever see a high end remodeled bath from the 80’s with a blue toilet and gold fixtures?  Somebody spend a lot of money for that during the 10 minutes it was in style.  Had they sold it THEN, it would have been worth it all.  The same goes for pickled cabinets.  I have them in my house and I am sure they were an upgrade!  Now they hurt the value of a house.

Do you have to update in this market to sell?  No, not at all.  But you aren’t going to get any where near the “Potential Value” for your house.  Believe it or not, that isn’t a bad thing sometimes.  I have a great example.  I sold a house for a lady a few months back.  She built the house new 10 years ago.  She had not put one penny into any updates.  All the appliances were original, the carpet was worn out, the water heater was original…………you get the picture.  We sold it for about 94% of similar houses in the area that had been updated some.  Think about this!  Who really came out ahead here.  The buyer needed to put in all new flooring and paint everything and even then they still have all the original appliances and mechanical systems.  The seller “Lost” that 6% of value (about $15,000) but NEVER, EVER spent a penny over 10 years.  I think she is the winner here.  She got use of all the stuff that typically gets updated and passed them on to the buyer when they were of no value (depreciated).  Most of us would have spent more than $15,000 for updates over 10 years and wouldn’t have come out as good as she did!

That story leads me to the most cost effective update:  Paint!  I really think that if my seller had painted the whole house we could have gotten  a lot more money for it.  Most painters charge $1/square foot of floor space.  To paint a 2400 a square foot house would be about $2400.  If you do it yourself, it is even cheaper.  Paint is the biggest bang for your buck when it comes time to sell.

I will skip the stuff about updates that everybody has seen on HGTV.  I assume everybody knows that you shouldn’t over/under-improve for your neighborhood.  

 The bottom line is that yes you can get most of your investment back when you sell BUT it has got to still be in style and still look pretty new.